reagan. the hero of the conservatives, reagan never went to israel as president. and this president has acted in ways that you've talked about with the ten meetings of netanyahu, what more adequate speech can he with deal with as a collective pursuit of peace than a speech in cairo, jim? >> i mean, i think it's more than reagan, reverend. i think probably a majority of american presidents since eisenhower did not trek to israel. >> he's the hero so certainly -- >> i agree. >> something to note. >> i agree. and as a young senator during that short period of time that he was representing the state of illinois, obama, you know, went to israel. for sure joy is right on the mark about the bug up their butts that a lot of folks have about the cairo speech. but the context there was one we can forget. it's in which a new administration firmly believed, whether you agree with them or not, that its predecessor, george w. bush, had been fighting essentially a war on islam. that was the view on the arab